In which we see a demented delusional Potus-45 presenting cajoling threatening suborning officials with an absurd unbelievable story - yet perhaps 70m Americans swallowed his nonsense.
If it comes to charges, he could justifiably plead insanity. Not sure what plea the 70m Americans would fall back on.
Incidentally I see the Dominion and Smartmatic lawsuits aganst Fox and Murdoch can proceed. As can the one against Giuliani, but not yet Powell. I fervently hope it cuts a huge hole in Murdoch's capacious pocket, and bankrupts Powell and Giuliani!
miclee
Did y'all see how the Cross Examination & Rebuttal Witnesses Challenged the Committee's Presentation? ...

Jun 22Grandsiozzie
I can't watch no hearings, this 'court' is to puke of.
Jun 22However I'd love to see what Trump said that was so bad,
can that be quoted here? Exactly what did Trump do that was bad.
I'd like to see the messages and judge for myself. A few examples.
FargoFan
@grand well if you had watched, you would have seen in video and in testimony.
Jun 22raphael119
FargoFan
@mic how can you rebut the evidence of the eyes and the ears - a desperate 45th ranting tripe, palpable nonsense, totally disregarding what less unbalanced advisers were telling him. Who takes the cake - Giuliani or Trump? Photo finish!
Jun 22Grandsiozzie
You people enjoy your show as long as it lasts.
Jun 22Nothing will come out of it cos he and his close helpers are all innocent.
This is only for the masses to make it appear they got a few bad guys
while they themselves are the bad guys.
Any real lawyer knows darn well there is nothing here. Zip, zero, nada.
Russia gate 3.0
galrads
miclee
For y'all who Missed my Point -
There IS NO Cross Examination nor Rebuttal Witnesses.
The J6 "Hearings" are a Soviet-Style Scripted Political Show Trial
The 2nd Round of 'em will begin next January after 'Publicans flip the House of Representatives & the Senate.
Here's a brief 9 Minute Rundown of what's NOT bein brought out Now -
And A Preview of Comin' Attractions ...
https://www.youtube.com/Watch?V=/jGGjoyXvveI
Political Swords are Double Edged - And they Swing Both Ways.
I reckon folks who are comfortable with the legal system of the PRC Mayn't understand how things work in a Western Legal System rooted in English Law with which they may be UnFamiliar ...
FargoFan
I see that 'There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See' is attributed to John Heywood circa 1530. Still apt nigh on 500 years later.
Jun 22miclee
"What we See depends mainly on what we Look For."

Jun 22- John Lubbock
FargoFan
yet another resort of those who will not see will not hear will not listen is 'petitio principii' - the art of begging the question - they say: because I know 45th always speaks the truth those who claim he lies are themselves liars. There are one or two such commenting herein.
Jun 22miclee
NO Amount of bloviating can change the FACT that the "Hearings" are the most patently One Sided such spectacle - More so than the Hearings of Joe McCarthy - in US history.
No witnesses other than those hand picked by Speaker Nan & No cross examination =
The Very Definition of Political Show Trial.
It has the Appearance of a pathetic combo of desperation & disgrace -
A de facto admission that The Don Scares Hell Outta 'Em.
And 'Crats have Damned Good Reason to have Hell scared Outta 'Em considering what's Comin' At 'Em in this year's Mid-Term Elections & Again in '24 ...
https://electionbettingodds.com
Election Day - Nov. 8, '22 ... Tick ... Tock ... Tick ... Tock ... ...
miclee
A resounding number of Murkuns realize it's a Made For TV Political Production.


Jun 23It's a Media Ratings Flop Heard 'Round The World -
Only 'bout Half the viewership of Ol Joe's SOTU Address - 95-ish% of folks give it a pass.
A Remarkable Non-Achievement considering the Big Three Networks are squandering Prime Time Programming on it -
I'd hate like Hell to be a Network Marketing Exec tryin' to sell Ad Space for that DOA Dud.
FargoFan
Ah, add wishful thinking. Your pronouncing it a dud, dead on arrival, does not make it so. There are those previously convinced of the greatness of the 45th now can see him instead as the great fraud he was and is. Do you imagine even one (except out of whimpering sympathy for his victimisation, poor old fella) may have migrated to his cause?
Jun 23rizlared
NO Amount of bloviating can change the FACT that the "Hearings" are the most patently One Sided such spectacle - More so than the Hearings of Joe McCarthy - in US history.
No witnesses other than those hand picked by Speaker Nan & No cross examination =
The Very Definition of Political Show Trial.
It has the Appearance of a pathetic combo of desperation & disgrace -
A de facto admission that The Don Scares Hell Outta 'Em.
And 'Crats have Damned Good Reason to have Hell scared Outta 'Em considering what's Comin' At 'Em in this year's Mid-Term Elections & Again in '24 ...
https://electionbettingodds.com
Election Day - Nov. 8, '22 ... Tick ... Tock ... Tick ... Tock ... ...
There are no cross-examinations in a hearing, evidence is put forward and examined as to it's factuality and honesty.
The Republicans were given the chance to put forward their own evidence but declined. Which is hardly surprising as they don't have any credible evidence that would stop a forthcoming trial.
When the trial convenes then cross examinations will happen.
I'm surprised I need to explain this to someone with your intelligence Mic
miclee
Point made & taken, Riz -

Jun 23It's Not a Trial. But it's being Used Similarly, so applying some of the Long Established protocols rooted in the English Legal System would be Appropriate.
Obviously - Any Prosecutor attempting to run an Actual Trial (as opposed to a Made For TV SHOW Trial) would more'n likely incur Disbarment.
rizlared
It's Not a Trial. But it's being Used Similarly, so applying some of the Long Established protocols rooted in the English Legal System would be Appropriate.
Obviously - Any Prosecutor attempting to run an Actual Trial (as opposed to a Made For TV SHOW Trial) would more'n likely incur Disbarment.
This is not a trail. it is establishing whether the evidence being put forward is credible, it's not rocket science, unless you have an alternative agenda of course
It appears the Trump cultists are trying to nullify the hearing by spreading BS such as not cross-examinations, etc, they are relying on the lack of knowledge rather than spreading the truth.
A simple diversion tactic used primarily by those hiding or ignoring credible evidence.
Over 60%, and rising, of Americans want to see Trump go to trail, which in itself negates you previous comments.Jun 23
miclee
If Anything - My stated numbers may've Been Generous!
When taken out of primetime, the 1/6 numbers almost completely cratered. Monday, June 13 saw an average of about 10 million viewers. By Day three on Thursday, the number of viewers dropped even further.
Consider also the perception of these hearings, which some in the media keep referring to as bipartisan when they are not, at least in spirit. Just 51 percent of voters approve of the House select committee, according to Morning Consult. Among independent voters, the number drops to 45 percent.
In other words, half the country respects the committee while half does not. If the goal is to change minds and make people care more than before, that doesn’t seem to be happening. Most importantly, none of the witnesses are facing anything resembling cross-examination because the minority party is not truly represented. (Staunch Trump critics Reps. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) and Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) don’t count regardless of the letter next to their name.) :
Complete Article @
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/amp/
miclee
This is not a trail. it is establishing whether the evidence being put forward is credible, it's not rocket science, unless you have an alternative agenda of course
It appears the Trump cultists are trying to nullify the hearing by spreading BS such as not cross-examinations, etc, they are relying on the lack of knowledge rather than spreading the truth.
A simple diversion tactic used primarily by those hiding or ignoring credible evidence.
Over 60%, and rising, of Americans want to see Trump go to trail, which in itself negates you previous comments.